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NorthbyNW
12-04-13, 04:50 PM
I ended up buying a Garmin Nuvi 3750 at Costco. This one has more bells and whistles than the basic unit they were selling for 12,000 yen but I mostly bought it 'cause it is pretty similar to the one I had back in the States and so don't have to fool with learning new pathways to get the info I want.
The good news is that the device works fine and finds locations by phone number too. It is nice to have ENG screen choices. There doesn't seem to be a way to bluetooth the guidance OUT of the device; it is designed to bluetooth your cellphone in so you can talk hands-free in your car.
Mounting it to the bike turned out to be challenging. Went to Nankai and bought what they had that fit the device and could somehow be wangled onto the KLE400 with its very limited handle-bar space. They had a "pochi" that the GPS fit into: http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/motostyle/pb-14.html . We tried a few different mounts but due to the cramped handlebars and the strut (?) across the bars the only thing that worked was the mirror arm mount (MSM-01 on the same page).
Here is a photo of that area of a bike of the same model.9261
The main problem is that the pochi presents a lot of glare in the sunlight. Also, it seems kind of cheap and I'm thinking that the sun will bake it to a brittle crisp come summer :sad:
Anyone had any luck with the Aqua Box from RAM?
Other GPS mounting solutions?

Doug68
21-04-13, 06:11 PM
Not answering your question but to keep the GPS thread going...

I was thinking of getting one a Garmin Nuvi2590 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/GARMIN%EF%BC%88%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9F%E3%83%B 3%EF%BC%89-%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BB%E3%82%B0%E6%90%AD%E8%B C%89%E3%83%9D%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB% E3%83%A1%E3%83%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%83 %93nuvi2590/dp/B00CEX59E8/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1366529519&sr=1-22&keywords=garmin+nuvi) from Amazon Japan. It says in the specs this unit is language switchable is that generally the case for all Nuvi units? Does that mean the map itself will be in English?

Looking at mounting solutions, I like the look of this that should attach directly to the Garmin mounting bracket.

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In the description on the Manufactures site it states "This connection is convenient, but may not be ideal by itself with the 17mm ball socket on the back of the Garmin Nuvi. Your use of a zip tie or homemade strap (not included) is essential for safety, particularly with motorcycles."
This this the manufacturers page. (http://www.arkon.com/gps.php)
Does anyone have experience with these are they a waste of time or manageable? From the point of view of attaching the unit to the bike I think it'll work well, but what'll happen at speed is more of a worry.

haildamage
21-04-13, 06:44 PM
if you buy a J model the maps will be in japanese but the OS - menus, etc will be in english. for me it has never been an issue using japanese maps together with a touring mapple with my crap japanese ability. the touring mapples have the town names in small print and you can usually use that to compare the kanji for exit names, train station names, etc.

i wouldnt use that car type mount on a bike myself. i knew a guy with the aquabox mount and that was really good.

Doug68
21-04-13, 06:53 PM
if you buy a J model the maps will be in japanese but the OS - menus, etc will be in english.

So is this the case for COSTCO sourced units or are the place names in roman with the maps that come with those?
Yeah I can see Kangi matching as an ok thing to do, I'm more concerned about setting up destinations in the first place for example.

haildamage
21-04-13, 07:10 PM
They will be selling J units at Cosco. You can confirm this by looking at the box. If box is all in Japanese
it's a J unit and the maps will be in Japanese. If the box is all in English it's probably a North American unit.

Many of us think it's better to buy a used zumo 550 or zumo 660 from Yahoo auctions et cetera, btw.

racer162
21-04-13, 09:19 PM
I bought the Nuvi 3750 from Costco menus in english and funny bought the maps most in hapanese but aome english also. all instructions in english. i love it. and much better grapgics than the zumo 550 has!
bought mounts from nankai for my CBR and my duc they work great no challenge at all to find or install.

haildamage
22-04-13, 07:51 AM
of course it depends on what you want to do with it. for my purposes a car unit isn't good enough as they tend to refuse to route down white roads, etc. i also like getting the map DVD/CD and being able to have the maps on my computer so that i can plan routes without having the unit at hand. not to mention little motorcycle friendly features like being waterproof and vibration resistant.

that being said, certainly a lot of people are making do with car units.

Doug68
28-04-13, 12:14 PM
So now I have my nuvi GPS unit and am in the process of collecting the parts to get it fitted to the bike.

Realizing the maps are entirely in Japanese characters I'm think about getting this:

Japan Digital Road Map Navigator for Garmin GPS and Topo 10m v5.0 (http://www.uud.info/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=81&osCsid=tfr22locvd6ca1lb00jiiilms0)

Which basically costs the same as the GPS unit, does anyone here have experience with swapping out the maps in Garmin units?
I can't find any other Japan maps in English, so I guess its this or nothing but dos it give a workable result?

haildamage
28-04-13, 07:35 PM
So now I have my nuvi GPS unit and am in the process of collecting the parts to get it fitted to the bike.

Realizing the maps are entirely in Japanese characters I'm think about getting this:

Japan Digital Road Map Navigator for Garmin GPS and Topo 10m v5.0 (http://www.uud.info/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=81&osCsid=tfr22locvd6ca1lb00jiiilms0)

Which basically costs the same as the GPS unit, does anyone here have experience with swapping out the maps in Garmin units?
I can't find any other Japan maps in English, so I guess its this or nothing but dos it give a workable result?


the UUD english maps are very good. they should go on your unit just fine and you will be able to toggle between the two maps.

the question is; do you really need that? my japanese is crap and i navigate just fine with a touring mapple and the j maps.

jsteenderen
02-05-13, 10:02 AM
i wouldnt use that car type mount on a bike myself. i knew a guy with the aquabox mount and that was really good.

I got myself a aqua box and ram mount for an older Nuvi1480. The aquabox is a bit bulky but comes with foam for a better fit of the GPS unit. I didn't get the chance to test it thoroughly yet, but I mounted it for this weekend and will let you know next week.

NorthbyNW
02-05-13, 12:37 PM
I got myself a aqua box and ram mount for an older Nuvi1480. The aquabox is a bit bulky but comes with foam for a better fit of the GPS unit. I didn't get the chance to test it thoroughly yet, but I mounted it for this weekend and will let you know next week.

By coincidence, I also have an aquabox on order from RAM Mounts. I am giving up on the setup I got at Nankai because I can't touch through the plastic to the touchscreen. Have to remove the GPS from the pochi to make any changes. Pain in the ass.

Doug68
18-05-13, 12:17 PM
Just got through assembling the parts acquired to mount the GPS, hopefully this is of some use to other people...

The GPS unit itself is a Garmin nuvi 2592 sourced via Amazon Japan.
The bracket to attach it to the handle bars was sourced from eBay USA

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It came with the 12v power supply adapter also, cost was $15.07 plus $7.95 shipping from a seller called hoya_unlimited.
It took 21 days from when I ordered to arriving here though I could see it went in the mail 2 days after purchase, apparently customs out of the USA is very slow at the moment.

Next was a small stainless carabiner, plastic coated steel cable tether and some stick on cable clips all aquired from the local Homes for less than a 1000 yen.
The plastic clips could open up so those have been super glued so that they can't and with 4 of them fixed to the unit it'll be major dramas before it get off of the tether.
So all of this was assembled as per the pictures below:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8553/8749568622_13db2c2ce5_h.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8132/8748575551_93087eaa78_h.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8416/8748576177_ee119f0364_h.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8409/8749701760_2ec368c285_h.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8117/8749701358_50fcbac996_h.jpg

The unit on the ball mount it really stiff so I can't see that flopping about, the the rubber in the bracket could be better, I may redo that at some point.
Yet to install the power cable, I'm going put a relay setup to drive the GPS and ETC as I don't like the idea of hanging these straight off of the battery.

KooK
19-05-13, 06:33 PM
Really nice little setup there! Would that thing happen to be bluetooth so you can hook it into a headset?

Doug68
20-05-13, 10:39 AM
This unit doesn't have blue tooth, I haven't been interested in that really.
It does have that most essential of accessories though a TV receiver! ;)