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    Default Having more than one bike

    Hi fellow riders.
    I am new to Japan, although I have been visiting yearly for the past 15 years. Finally decided to settle down in Japan. So without waffling on.....
    If you have more than one bike, let's talk over 750cc. On the bike/s you are not using,

    1. Can you let the shaken expire? Then when you want to use that bike apply for a new one?
    2. Can you put the shaken on hold? Then when you want to use that bike start it again?


    What do you guys do? Also if neither of the above are applicable and all bikes have to have a valid shaken. Any tips on insurance for having more than one bike.

    Lastly, if you come across a barn find, no shaken, no paper work at all, can the bike be reinstated into the system.

    Thanks..
    Best to enter a corner slow and exit fast, than enter fast and exit Dead.

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    1. Yes. Yes.
    2. No. No.
    Lastly: Yes.

    "Shaken" means "vehicle inspection" and it is valid for the designated period. You can't put a time-based inspection on hold.

    Only bikes above 250cc displacement are required to have shaken. Bikes up to 249cc are under a different scheme. (Note that "250" in a bike's name doesn't matter, just the actual displacement).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Cash View Post
    (Note that "250" in a bike's name doesn't matter, just the actual displacement).
    But in all honesty if it does say "250" on the side it's going to be somewhere close, but not over.

    @Yorkshire: If you let shaken expire you won't pay road taxes until you renew it again, but you will lose far more than that in the hassle of getting it in for inspection. Either trucking it to a dealer (and paying the dealer rates for the inspection), trucking it to the shaken center and hoping you pass the first time, or getting temporary plates and driving it in yourself. So it's more like something that isn't a problem if it happens, rather than something you would plan on doing.

    ( Suppose you could drive it as-is and just push it the last block for appearances sake, but it's big-big-big trouble if you get stopped. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Cash View Post
    (Note that "250" in a bike's name doesn't matter, just the actual displacement).
    What if you modify the bike to have a larger displacement?

    Quote Originally Posted by rtfm View Post
    But in all honesty if it does say "250" on the side it's going to be somewhere close, but not over.
    If you look on the cylinder you'll probably see molded into it the actual displacement. It's exceedingly rare that a bike's actual displacement is the same as what they call it. Most 250s are ~249cc. They bring them right up to the legal limit, and then stop. But they still call them the size of the limit. In the case of the example above 250. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToraTora View Post
    What if you modify the bike to have a larger displacement?
    Turning your 180 into a 240? Enjoy the extra power.

    If it crosses the size limit, go to the license center and fill out a form declaring the engine is a different size. You may (or may not, depending) get a new plate. You may (or may not, depending) require a different class of license now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtfm View Post
    Turning your 180 into a 240? Enjoy the extra power.

    If it crosses the size limit, go to the license center and fill out a form declaring the engine is a different size. You may (or may not, depending) get a new plate. You may (or may not, depending) require a different class of license now.
    I've read that in response to the biker boom some of the smaller bikes were outlawed from some of the roads the kids use to employ their Winding Riders talents.

    Here in CA we do have legislation the prohibits less than 150cc on the freeway, other than that the smaller bikes are allowed wherever larger bikes would be allowed. Although I have had the CHP tell me that if the bike has a moto plate on it they aren't going to pull you over for being on a smaller displacement engine—as long as you are keeping up with the flow of traffic. Although in Japan the difference sized bikes get different plates making it easy for law enforcement, correct?

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    The police here may stop you, whether afoot or in/on a vehicle, pretty much any time they want to and for any reason they want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToraTora View Post
    Although in Japan the difference sized bikes get different plates making it easy for law enforcement, correct?
    Correct. Take a stock "125"cc (actual size 124.5) bike and re-register it at 125.5cc and it's 100% legal on the expressway. You change the small pink plate for a medium-size white plate so it's very obvious. The popo might stop you if they suspect you have a stolen plate, but it will all check out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtfm View Post
    Turning your 180 into a 240? Enjoy the extra power.

    If it crosses the size limit, go to the license center and fill out a form declaring the engine is a different size. You may (or may not, depending) get a new plate. You may (or may not, depending) require a different class of license now.
    eh?...you'll prob not be wanting to go to the Kenkyosho/licence center, for the changed engine size but the Kuyakusho/Ward office, as its also a tax issue. The licence/menkyosho center.

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    Hi Mike
    Many thank for the info
    Best to enter a corner slow and exit fast, than enter fast and exit Dead.

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    Hi rtfm
    So I guess it's best to keep the shaken up to date and pay for the privilege, is the shaken (every two years I believe) a fixed price, if it passes?
    Best to enter a corner slow and exit fast, than enter fast and exit Dead.

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