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    I just recently found out about the foot down thing, I got lucky for years now as I try to stop and balance without dabbing a foot, seems that is a bad tactic here.
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    I lost 2 points + 7000 yen for no touching the ground with my feets ( both ) although i could manage the bike in balance..
    They were hiding behind a huge tree, couldn't avoid them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daichri View Post
    I lost 2 points + 7000 yen for no touching the ground with my feets ( both ) although i could manage the bike in balance..
    They were hiding behind a huge tree, couldn't avoid them!
    Are they kidding ?
    Never put my left leg on the ground, even at traffic light.
    Should give them a mathematical and physical lecture where a 2D plane is defined by 3 points in an Euclidean space .

    Seriously, there is a rule about the two legs??? Would be surprised. If any, also applies to side cars ?

    Edit: Apparently misread, you haven't put a foot to the ground. Sad and happened to several of us :( You still might be able to fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daichri View Post
    I lost 2 points + 7000 yen for no touching the ground with my feets ( both ) although i could manage the bike in balance..
    They were hiding behind a huge tree, couldn't avoid them!
    They teach you to stop with your left foot down during the motorcycle test. In fact, if you touch the ground with your right foot at any time (with the exception of shifting from N to 1st) during the test, you fail. Watch any shirobai and none of them ever touch with their right foot at a stop. It's considered bad form here, and I don't know how they could justify that you must use both feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daichri View Post
    I lost 2 points + 7000 yen for no touching the ground with my feets ( both ) although i could manage the bike in balance..
    They were hiding behind a huge tree, couldn't avoid them!
    Quote Originally Posted by dmizer View Post
    They teach you to stop with your left foot down during the motorcycle test. In fact, if you touch the ground with your right foot at any time (with the exception of shifting from N to 1st) during the test, you fail. Watch any shirobai and none of them ever touch with their right foot at a stop. It's considered bad form here, and I don't know how they could justify that you must use both feet.
    I would seriously have contested the ticket.

    I haven't checked thoroughly, but I'd be very surprised if the traffic law actually specifies which foot or the number of feet that a motorcyclist must put on the ground at a stop, regardless of what they teach at riding school.

    I have seen shirobi at traffic lights with their left foot on the peg and their right foot on the ground. The brake light wasn't even lit, indicating the shirobi officer wasn't even grabbing his front brake.

    Police officers are not angels. They do sin too.

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    I always tap a toe on the ground, but sometimes I am still moving. I should check my riding if I want that gold license next year...

    All the laws are less about safety and more about slowing everything down to a point so the trains are the best option... I think JR is "entertaining" some high up road safety law makers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daichri View Post
    I lost 2 points + 7000 yen for no touching the ground with my feets ( both ) although i could manage the bike in balance..
    They were hiding behind a huge tree, couldn't avoid them!
    Both feet can't be required by law. Are you tell me, every vertically challenged rider is going to get both feet down on a bmw gs/a? Or a yamaha WR250 for that matter.

    Added to that is not like we are living in Holland were everybody is 6' plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rider2371 View Post


    I have seen shirobi at traffic lights with their left foot on the peg and their right foot on the ground. The brake light wasn't even lit, indicating the shirobi officer wasn't even grabbing his front brake.


    Police officers are not angels. They do sin too.


    Yep, I saw one doing that today. Had to resist the urge not to chastise him.

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    I got done about ten years ago for stationary balancing at a tomaresen and the smurf pulled me over, and explained the sign and the problem. He specifically said that I had to put at least one foot down. I remember because when I recounted it to a friend in the UK who was a traffic cop and biker at the time, he said it was the same in the UK. Maybe the rule has changed? (Also agree with the left foot preference - same when I learned).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivx View Post
    I think those pigs are out on the prowl to get some bonus money for the end of the year. gawd dang blood suckers! :bad-words:
    If i ever came across a cop half dead.... :badgrin: :badgrin:
    My two small children were knocked down by a speeding Taxi, youngest sprained his ankle, apart from that just cuts a bruised. I guess it was marginal that I ever saw my kids alive again. Police were on hand to help and told me the taxi was speeding and did I want to press charges. I have to say that during this experience I wasn’t thinking of your words above to describe the police, just wish there would have been a better way to enforce the speed limit on residential roads.

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    This was in January in Daizawa

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    Wow sorry to hear that. Taxis just in general don't look.
    I'd press charges to the maximum personally
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    Quote Originally Posted by nanikore View Post
    I got done about ten years ago for stationary balancing at a tomaresen and the smurf pulled me over, and explained the sign and the problem. He specifically said that I had to put at least one foot down. I remember because when I recounted it to a friend in the UK who was a traffic cop and biker at the time, he said it was the same in the UK. Maybe the rule has changed? (Also agree with the left foot preference - same when I learned).
    Super late reply. Is this the case in Japan? Do you have to put a foot down when you stop? I mean you obviously don't have to physically (Hello trials riders), but legally? I've specifically asked the local SFPD/CHP about this, and they said as long as you stop, and it's safe to proceed, it is fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mersontheperson View Post
    My two small children were knocked down by a speeding Taxi, youngest sprained his ankle, apart from that just cuts a bruised. I guess it was marginal that I ever saw my kids alive again. Police were on hand to help and told me the taxi was speeding and did I want to press charges. I have to say that during this experience I wasn’t thinking of your words above to describe the police, just wish there would have been a better way to enforce the speed limit on residential roads.
    These days most taxis are Priuses, and well those have such horrible visibility that you can't trust them no matter what color they are painted. That an now with things like Uber anyone can be a distracted taxi. Glad your young ones survived okay. These kinds of event usually tend to make people more aware—although...I know a Japanese girl here in the States that his been hit three or four times because she doesn't look before she crosses the street. If the light changes she goes. Her rational is of course "they are suppose to stop." Even though she has been hit many times she still refuses to listen to reason. I just don't get it.

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    This was a traditional Toyota Crown, 90% of Tokyo taxis still seem to be.

    Kids are fine, but Taxi drivers do appear to be the worse of all Japanese drivers in my limited experience here

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