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    Default Herniated Disk Haters Unite!

    So lord knows how I did it, but I'm broken at the age of 32. (flips the bird at father time!)

    Multiple sprint car flips? High side at SLY? Sex trophy transportation? Who knows!

    At first I thought I pretty much pulled something. The popping of the lower back (like cracking knuckles) led me to believe otherwise. I've taken it easy for a few weeks and no improvement. Now I have shooting 'pains' (pins and needles) and frequent sensations of my legs falling asleep.

    Everything points to herniated disks (lower back).

    I found http://www.tokyomidtown-mc.jp/en/index.html which has been highly recommended by a friend. Going to see how long it'll take to get in there. I hear even surgery is almost considered outpatient depending on what you have.

    On a scale based on pain, I would rate it a 3-4. Annoying? Yes. Does it prohibit me from daily life? No.

    Is this a terminal injury?

    Anyone experience this?

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    There was another thread on this topic for Guy I think ...

    Mine started off a bit like yours - stiff getting out of chairs, pain lifting my feet up onto foot pegs on the bike - then it exploded proper and I was in total agony for a couple of days ... was putting the Bitubo into the TL and had to crawl inside :D
    Got better but approached the point where I was considering not driving cos I couldn't rely on my foot moving between brake and gas pain was non-existent but then so was sensation and control from the waist down ...

    Microdiscectomy is what I had ... sucked ass even with a morphine drip, I'd hate to have to go outpatient on that!

    Do NOT let the chiropractic quacks anywhere near your back!

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    I live with back pain. It helps mound my character in the nice friendly character that I am.....
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    Dude, I had the same problem for several months. my legs were numb and had a terrible pain in my lower back and legs. couldn't sleep well, either. thank God I'm much better now. acunpuncture also helped me. but only TIME will heal your pain. Take it easy and do some exercises after you feel better to have strong muscles around your lower back and abs.

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    I got pain from time to time in my lower back too. I searched online for exercises and stretches
    to help alleviate the pain in my back. I found a simple, effective routine (on youtube of all places)
    that seems to do the trick for me. My back actually has felt better ever since.

    Here's the link in case you're interested.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRzx01L0Pdw"]YouTube- End Low Back Pain NOW![/ame]

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    Dana,

    After almost 2 years of back pain like you describe, I think I may be improving a bit. During my tour around Shikoku, I think my spine settled into a new position. I still feel some pain, but it feels more superficial, like it's in my skin instead of at the very core of my spinal column. My doctor thinks I may have had a slipped disc that slipped back into position while I was in Shikoku, and now I may just have a little temporary nerve pain that could go away eventually. But we don't know for sure, so I went for an MRI recently and I'm waiting for the results to find out what the heck is going on inside my back. But so far, so good.

    Even now, I still need to be careful what kind of chairs or motorcycles I sit on, and how I sit on them, but that's not such a bad thing: My body is forcing me to make sure that I keep good posture and avoid damaging my back any further. On long rides, I use a kidney belt to hold everything together and relieve some of the strain on my back, but day to day I'm pretty much okay. I sit in an Aeron chair at work, which is so good I bought one myself to use at home. I won't be on the US Olympic Gymnastics team, but I can put on my own socks and underwear and cut my toenails now, which I couldn't do when my back was at its worst. Also, it used to be that if I "overdid it" and really stressed my back one day, I literally wouldn't be able to get out of bed the next morning because of the pain from my back stiffening up overnight! But now that doesn't happen anymore. I feel really relieved that those days seem to be over (knock on wood).

    So I guess my message is: take it easy, be good to your back (bend from the knees, don't pick up heavy stuff, sit in supportive chairs, etc.), and things might get better in a while. Hang in there.

    I'd be careful about rushing into surgery unless you have really unbearable pain that never goes away. I may end up getting it, but my doctor has told me it doesn't always get rid of all the pain and sometimes it can screw you up worse. So if you don't really need it, don't get it as a "why not?" sort of thing.

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    Within the last 24 hours, I've actually felt better. My lower back feels tight (no pain, just stiff) and the occasional twisting relieves it. Rolling around on the floor playing with my daughter actually feels good; like I'm warming up the muscles and stretching. And after a long hot shower this morning, I felt great!

    So before I make an appointment with the big time doctors downtown, is this something a local hospital or specialist could diagnose?

    Thanks for the replies gents! While it sucks to have this, it might be a good thing as I start living a healthier lifestyle. Thanks for the vid tinfro! Good Stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    Within the last 24 hours, I've actually felt better. My lower back feels tight (no pain, just stiff) and the occasional twisting relieves it. Rolling around on the floor playing with my daughter actually feels good; like I'm warming up the muscles and stretching. And after a long hot shower this morning, I felt great!

    So before I make an appointment with the big time doctors downtown, is this something a local hospital or specialist could diagnose?

    Thanks for the replies gents! While it sucks to have this, it might be a good thing as I start living a healthier lifestyle. Thanks for the vid tinfro! Good Stuff!

    Dana
    Sounds like you got off a lot easier than I did in the bad-back lottery! Count yer blessin's.

    Definitely go to a specialist/big-time doctor to get diagnosed; an MRI is really the only way to go if you really wanna find out what's going on in there. But don't jump into surgery, especially since it sounds like you are already getting better on your own. Your doctor will probably steer you away from surgery anyway, unless you have really severe back problems.
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    l know this is an old thread... but l have had EXCELLENT results with chiropractic care to get the vertebrae back in alignment... and yoga to keep them there.

    Not all cracks are quacks.

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    I have been holding firm without surgery. I will always have a "bad back", but it's not stopping me from doing normal stuff. I just have to be careful not to stress it too much, sit in a bad position, or bend a lot. Losing weight probably helped.

    The next big test will be the Iron Butt ride next week. I am not sure how I will hold up to a full day in the saddle, but I am going to give it a shot and see what happens.
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    i hear ya..did something muscular to my lower back a few years back & it nags from time to time. Time, good posture & walking (not standing in place) helps it a bunch. If you're a desk guy, drink tons of water. This will force you to hit the head every 40 - 50 mins. Sitting longer than that is what used to drive my back nuts. I found stretching daily & working my core muscles (abs) had a huge improvement as well.

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    Same here ... got an L5S1 problem and the hernia is there, sometimes blocks my sciatic (?) nerve leading to pain in the legs.
    I'm 37 and they told me that it was too soon to fix anything, I would have to wait until the buldgings in the L4 and S2 are about to crack before they would do anything. Does not stop me from riding but I needed to make some adjustments. Got a geal seat on the the busa ( bike which is quite long so stretches my back quite good ) and lose some weight.

    Knock on wood but I can say that I'm virtually pain free during the larger part of the day, getting out of bed after a night sleep when everything is "frozen" does tend to be a problem though :) Oh well, shit happens I guess ?
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    Agree wholeheartedly with Flywalker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flywalker View Post
    l know this is an old thread... but l have had EXCELLENT results with chiropractic care to get the vertebrae back in alignment... and yoga to keep them there.

    Not all cracks are quacks.
    How do you know your body wasn't just healing naturally on its own? You might be crediting chiropractic care and yoga with results that would have happened anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flywalker View Post
    to get the vertebrae back in alignment
    Didn't they debunk that on Mythbusters?

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    This might be of interest to some of you folks. 20-40% of back pain caused by infections and treatable with antibiotics:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...-pain-patients


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamikuza View Post
    Didn't they debunk that on Mythbusters?
    ... and Penn and Teller's Bullshit. And the AMA. And countless studies.
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    Another factor to keep in mind regarding chiropracty in Japan is that it is an unrecognized, unregulated, and unlicensed branch of "medicine" in Japan. Those from the U.S. may be used to practitioners being trained as doctors of chiropracty and licensed by the states in which they practice. Here, you could start your own school of chiropracty tomorrow if you wanted to....or you could even hang out a shingle and start your own clinic if you wanted. There are schools here and there is a professional association which sets standards for the industry and certifies people, but that is totally a non-governmental body.

    Chiropractors in Japan, not being licensed medical professionals, are forbidden to use x-ray equipment. Part of their training at school includes a "Princess and the Pea" method in which they place a strand of hair in a book and turn more and more pages over the hair as they practice running their fingers over the page feeling around for it, attempting to heighten their sense of touch.

    I'm not going to argue whether chiropracty itself is good, bad, or indifferent. But I do want those who partake of it here to be aware it operates in an environment which may be very different than what you expect from back home.

    Same goes for the 接骨院 (sekkotsuin) "bone setter" guys, by the way.

    A white coat should not be mistaken for evidence of proper education and professional licensing.

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