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    Default Buying a computer in Japan....

    I will be getting a laptop in the near future. Can anyone advise if it would be cheaper to get it in Jp or buy one in the US and bring it over?

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    The US is definitely cheaper. Also finding one with an English operating
    system can be a pain. That said I am not associated with the military
    so on base may be a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit74
    I will be getting a laptop in the near future. Can anyone advise if it would be cheaper to get it in Jp or buy one in the US and bring it over?

    Thanks
    Unit,

    If you are in the US now, buy it there and bring it over. There are a lot of places here in Japan where you can buy computers with the English OS, but you will pay a lot for it and your make/model choices are limited.

    On top of that...

    For as 'high-tech' as Japan is said to be, when it comes to computers the US is still miles ahead. Most of Japan's domestic computers, like Sony Vaio and Fujitsu FMV, look asthetically appealing, but are usually low in quality and capability. Vaios in particular have a very bad reputation for reliability. They are made to look good and be trendy, not to last or function as a real computer.

    Toshiba's are probably tops for the Japanese market, but you might do better with a Dell, IBM, or HP from the US. Oh, and don't dismiss Apple. The PowerBooks are very good.

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    Unit74-san,

    I take it you are in the Marine Corps? If you have a sponsor at Iwakuni, you might get better information about the availability of PCs and such from him or her. Don't get me wrong, I don't know of a better place to get motorcycle-specific information and perhaps information on Japan in general than here. I'm just saying there may be better avenues for some questions. Yokota has a pretty good selection of PCs in the BX, but I usually build mine. If you're up for that, you'll find the internet to be your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-jay
    Unit74-san,

    I'm just saying there may be better avenues for some questions. Yokota has a pretty good selection of PCs in the BX, but I usually build mine. If you're up for that, you'll find the internet to be your friend.

    Cheers.
    What is that supposed to mean? So you build your own PC. WHOOPPEEE
    ALBERTFUCKINEINSTEIN :!exclaim:

    You got something to add as an answer, great, but where do you get off
    commenting on the knowledge of other members of this forum on computers??

    Not like most of us are engineers. Not like we actually lived in Japan and
    travelled to most parts of the county. What would we know................. :badgrin:

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    Jav, you're evil :evil: . But you crack me up :razz: .

    Bill,
    Unit mentioned he wanted a laptop, in which case building is usually impractical. Doable, but impractical.

    And if you are like me, you don't often realize what a hand-built pc costs when you have to add software - because you've been in the business for a long time and always get stuff for free. Adding software to a home-made computer can get pretty outrageous and you often end up being much better off with a pre-built/pre-installed eMachine or something along those lines.

    The base folk would probably be a big help if Unitz was already here, but if he's in the US he's better off going over to CompUSA or one of the typical PC shops.

    Hey, I really hate to do them any favors, but with Site Master Jav's permission, I'll post some info about getting Internet and Computers in English in Japan. Permission required because its kind of free advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamanimal
    Jav, you're evil :evil: . But you crack me up :razz: .

    Bill,
    Unit mentioned he wanted a laptop, in which case building is usually impractical. Doable, but impractical.
    Right. I'd overlooked that part by the time I actually responded. The fact is, his first resource here in Japan would be whatever the NEX at Iwakuni has to offer (again, assuming he's in the Marines -- which seems like a safe bet). Unless he's interested in dealing with a Japanese OS and documentation, which I'd guess he isn't.


    And if you are like me, you don't often realize what a hand-built pc costs when you have to add software - because you've been in the business for a long time and always get stuff for free. Adding software to a home-made computer can get pretty outrageous and you often end up being much better off with a pre-built/pre-installed eMachine or something along those lines.
    That's absolutely true. You have to know what software you want and need. I hate some of the crap that's come with my last two purchased PCs (both laptops).


    The base folk would probably be a big help if Unitz was already here, but if he's in the US he's better off going over to CompUSA or one of the typical PC shops.
    I'm just saying that I'd think the Marines have a sponsor program something like the AF's where he could actually ask about the availability of computers at the NEX where he will be stationed. Then he can decide if he wants to buy a new PC in the States and have it broken when it's shipped.


    Hey, I really hate to do them any favors, but with Site Master Jav's permission, I'll post some info about getting Internet and Computers in English in Japan. Permission required because its kind of free advertising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jav
    Quote Originally Posted by billy-jay
    Unit74-san,

    I'm just saying there may be better avenues for some questions. Yokota has a pretty good selection of PCs in the BX, but I usually build mine. If you're up for that, you'll find the internet to be your friend.

    Cheers.
    What is that supposed to mean? So you build your own PC. WHOOPPEEE
    ALBERTFUCKINEINSTEIN :!exclaim:

    You got something to add as an answer, great, but where do you get off
    commenting on the knowledge of other members of this forum on computers??

    Not like most of us are engineers. Not like we actually lived in Japan and
    travelled to most parts of the county. What would we know................. :badgrin:

    Jav
    What it's supposed to mean is that I don't normally look at what PCs are available anywhere I shop -- I shop for parts. Sorry to lead you on like that, but as you seem to have demonstrated in the other thread, reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits, either.

    So, are there any folks stationed at Iwakuni on the board who could actually tell us what's available in their NEX?

    Seriously, Jav, what the hell is up with you?
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    Okay, in the interest of fairness, civility, and all that is pure and good in the world, let's assume that all the fault lies with me.

    Unit74 -- I'm not trying to chase you off, man. If you've got questions on anything, let 'em fly.

    Jav -- I'm sure the only reason you jumped to conclusions here is because I didn't make myself very clear (and I'd guess the heated nature of the Tar Pit thread didn't help). Rest assured that I'm not trying to be an ass, even if I come across as one sometimes.

    Now, were there any more questions about what I meant here?
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    As a new member, I didn't want to get into a pissing match with anyone just yet.....


    Yes, I am in the Marines. As of yet, I have not been able to find a source for information, other than the MCAS website or the MCCS website which are both not very helpfull.


    Unfortunately, my command is not very helpfull either....they are basically pushing me out the door on my own to deal with this. They are too tied up with recruiting issues at hand.

    thanks for the info....I'll check with the computer stores and pick one up from there before I go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit74
    As a new member, I didn't want to get into a pissing match with anyone just yet.....


    Yes, I am in the Marines. As of yet, I have not been able to find a source for information, other than the MCAS website or the MCCS website which are both not very helpfull.


    Unfortunately, my command is not very helpfull either....they are basically pushing me out the door on my own to deal with this. They are too tied up with recruiting issues at hand.

    thanks for the info....I'll check with the computer stores and pick one up from there before I go....
    Sorry to hear you're command isn't helping much. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamanimal
    Jav, you're evil :evil: . But you crack me up :razz: .

    Bill,
    Unit mentioned he wanted a laptop, in which case building is usually impractical. Doable, but impractical.

    And if you are like me, you don't often realize what a hand-built pc costs when you have to add software - because you've been in the business for a long time and always get stuff for free. Adding software to a home-made computer can get pretty outrageous and you often end up being much better off with a pre-built/pre-installed eMachine or something along those lines.

    The base folk would probably be a big help if Unitz was already here, but if he's in the US he's better off going over to CompUSA or one of the typical PC shops.

    Hey, I really hate to do them any favors, but with Site Master Jav's permission, I'll post some info about getting Internet and Computers in English in Japan. Permission required because its kind of free advertising.
    No premission required.

    Jav
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamanimal

    Hey, I really hate to do them any favors, but with Site Master Jav's permission, I'll post some info about getting Internet and Computers in English in Japan. Permission required because its kind of free advertising.
    No permission required. Plugging businesses that offer good service
    to one and all is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-jay
    Okay, in the interest of fairness, civility, and all that is pure and good in the world, let's assume that all the fault lies with me.

    Unit74 -- I'm not trying to chase you off, man. If you've got questions on anything, let 'em fly.

    Jav -- I'm sure the only reason you jumped to conclusions here is because I didn't make myself very clear (and I'd guess the heated nature of the Tar Pit thread didn't help). Rest assured that I'm not trying to be an ass, even if I come across as one sometimes.

    Now, were there any more questions about what I meant here?
    I was giving you a hard time because of your comment about
    " I'm just saying there may be better avenues for some questions"
    I though it was a bit condescending and totally irrelevant to the question.

    Allen works as some form of specialist at an ISP and I am have worked in
    the design of PC's for 4 years in R&D, and as an electronics engineer for
    10yrs, and many others on this board are either computer or IT
    employed. So in my opinion this is a good place to ask about PC's.
    Plus we are after all, here in Japan and using PCs.

    Plus with the heated no bars discussion you know the advice is genuine
    and not some second hand sales effort.

    As for comprehension, I beg to differ.

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    Well, Jav, my intended point was that his best bet for purchasing a PC over here would be the NEX and I don't know how many folks here have shopped there. If there is someone on the board who does shop at Iwakuni's exchange, now would be a good time to jump in. I did not intend to come across as condescending, but I do admit that it's easy to read that way.

    At any rate, given the level of support that Unit74 is getting from his command, this board is apparently the better source of info, anyway.

    As for your comments, well, you and Allen certainly have admirable skills, but what does any of that have to do with computer shopping? I've had high tech jobs for years, but I'm not really an expert on computer shopping. That's why I mentioned that I build my own PCs -- I don't shop for purpose built computers. And, of course, being in Japan isn't the same thing as being in the military in Japan, is it?
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    I'm a diver and I have a DELL. :mrgreen:

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-jay
    I don't shop for purpose built computers
    Thankfully, "purpose bulit" is a very loose notion these days ...once you find a model with a form factor that you like, the range of configuration options typically offered nowadays can accommodate most specific user requirements (gamers, business, etc....).


    Quote Originally Posted by billy-jay
    And, of course, being in Japan isn't the same thing as being in the military in Japan, is it?
    Ah ha!.....how about a MIL-SPEC ( MIL-STD-810F) consumer PC ? ...maybe they would cough up the funds for that :!exclaim:

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    Last time I bought a computer I went to Akihabara and found a small shop that puts them together, picked the stuff I wanted, and came back in a hour and it was ready to go, 60,000 yen with a keyboard, and mouse.

    Great deal!

    I did not need a monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-jay
    ...well, you and Allen certainly have admirable skills, but what does any of that have to do with computer shopping? I've had high tech jobs for years, but I'm not really an expert on computer shopping.
    Well actually, among other things, I am expert on computer shopping. Certain aspects of my work require that I keep a close watch on the market as I make a lot of purchasing decisions both internally and on behalf of customers. I window-shop in Akihabara at least once a week and speak often with various distributors and vendors in Japan.

    My advice is honest, well-informed, and free. So if anyone needs help with anything PC related, anything at all, feel free to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamanimal
    Quote Originally Posted by billy-jay
    ...well, you and Allen certainly have admirable skills, but what does any of that have to do with computer shopping? I've had high tech jobs for years, but I'm not really an expert on computer shopping.
    Well actually, among other things, I am expert on computer shopping. Certain aspects of my work require that I keep a close watch on the market as I make a lot of purchasing decisions both internally and on behalf of customers. I window-shop in Akihabara at least once a week and speak often with various distributors and vendors in Japan.

    My advice is honest, well-informed, and free. So if anyone needs help with anything PC related, anything at all, feel free to ask.
    In that case, I might be hitting you up for some advice in the near future.

    :)
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